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Post by Scifishocks on Feb 3, 2008 22:12:39 GMT 1
If any of you liked 'Fargo' you will like this.
If not, watch it any way.
It's astonishing.
I've seen Tommy Lee Jones be good.... but his performance here is way over that.
And Josh Brolin is also amazing.
In fact, ALL the actors are amazing.
It's an amazing film.
See it, if you can.
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Post by mrgrotey on Feb 4, 2008 0:59:30 GMT 1
I saw this a few days ago, I was indeed a great film, the only thing I dont like about it is that it
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Post by mrgrotey on Feb 4, 2008 1:01:02 GMT 1
....ends just like that last reply. stone dead. Everyone was left sitting there with the lights on looking at eachother saying. "umm is that it then? the end?" it was so weird I average about 2-3 films a month at the cinema and have never seen that in an audience before. very strange. great film though  |
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Post by Scifishocks on Feb 4, 2008 4:44:01 GMT 1
Yeah, the ending is weird, I agree.
We're too used to having all the 'i's dotted and the 't's crossed in movies and the end of this is a little startling, I guess.
All the same, I thought it was a great flick.
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Post by richardburton on Feb 4, 2008 10:50:45 GMT 1
Watched it last night - totally agree. Bloody good film - one of the Coen's best. Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem) is one of the nastiest on screen bad guys I've seen in a long time and the use of the compressed air cattle-gun is inspired.
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Post by mrgrotey on Feb 25, 2008 13:40:13 GMT 1
Just won best film at the Oscars, well deserved methinks (im still waiting for the ending though  ) |
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Post by richardburton on Feb 25, 2008 14:03:59 GMT 1
Yeah definitely well deserved.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Jun 5, 2008 12:34:53 GMT 1
Rant mode:
Great film up to the last 15 mins.
WTF was that all about? The film just, well: ended!
Move along nicely well acted, good story then... meh. Almost as if they got bored making the film and needed to end the story right then and there. Or they ran out of cash.
SPOILERS below:
1) Why did Josh Brolin go on a suicide charge against the Mexican bandits at the motel? The way i saw it the Mexi's wern't a threat. The Iggy Pop lookalike was the threat, if anyone needed taking out it was Iggy Pop the assassin.
2) Did Iggy kill the girl or not.
3) WTF was the point of the car crash.
4) Woddy Harrelson, most pointlessly and underused supporting role ever.
5) Someone tell me what Tommy Lee was meant to do in the end apart from looking worn out?
I thought the ending was brewing up for a cool 4 way shootout. Brolin and Jones vs Harrelson vs Iggy Pop vs the Mexicans. A good gritty realistic shoot out not like Die Hard or anything but a bloody realistic ending. Noooooooo we got some incoprehensible speech about Gawd knows what.
Up to the final 15 mins 8/10. With the last 15 mins 4/10.
A most unsatisfying ending, like eating a nice meal and realising only at the end all you got was a lot of gas. Next time it says 'twist ending' on the DVD i'm avoiding it like a dose of the clap.
I dont mind twist ending if they make sence or helps to heighten the tension: this film doesnt, and i'm amazed at the amount of praise this film has had heaped upon it. Its not worth half what it got. Maybe i'm missing the point here.
I wasted 11 quid on this bo**cks.
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Post by richardburton on Jun 6, 2008 11:04:47 GMT 1
I think the whole point of the ending was to show that the good guys don't always win, that the most shocking and unexpected things can happen in the blink of an eye and that we all think we're the stars of our own lives but that changes very little in the grand scheme of things.
1) Brolin was caught out not in the end by Anton who you rightly say was the biggest threat, but by a bunch of gun-toting Mexicans.
2) Yes but the director choses not to show us, so there is a small element of doubt.
3) the car crash symbolised natural justice stepping in, but then it is turned on its head by Anton actually surviving it suggesting that nature can't even stop him or that he is a force of nature himself.
4) Woody was underused, but it was a great use of building the audience up just to knock them down again.
5) For Tommy the whole film was a journey of self discovery and of understanding his father more and that at the end he was just there to bare witness to the tragic events.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Jun 6, 2008 14:15:13 GMT 1
I think the whole point of the ending was to show that the good guys don't always win, that the most shocking and unexpected things can happen in the blink of an eye and that we all think we're the stars of our own lives but that changes very little in the grand scheme of things. 1) Brolin was caught out not in the end by Anton who you rightly say was the biggest threat, but by a bunch of gun-toting Mexicans. 2) Yes but the director choses not to show us, so there is a small element of doubt. 3) the car crash symbolised natural justice stepping in, but then it is turned on its head by Anton actually surviving it suggesting that nature can't even stop him or that he is a force of nature himself. 4) Woody was underused, but it was a great use of building the audience up just to knock them down again. 5) For Tommy the whole film was a journey of self discovery and of understanding his father more and that at the end he was just there to bare witness to the tragic events. Now you explained it i can understand. However i didnt like the fact it just 'ended' really abruptly. The film felt that it had another 15-20 mins left to run. I dont mind the good guys losing now and again, i'd have it as a shoot-out as i suggested but in the fight thats when the twist would come. Like Tommy Lee is the one who shoots Brolin simply as an accident. And he gets wounded himself and he contemplated the fact hes lost as the remaining parties-all bad fight for the case of cash and in the end Iggy walks off with the case, shot up but alive. Thats how i would have done it. Tommy survives cut up that it was his bullet that kills the good guy not the enemy. Ever seen 'open range' thats the type of shoot out I would have done: realistically done. |
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Post by richardburton on Jun 6, 2008 18:53:06 GMT 1
Aye, Open Range is one of the few very realistic westerns. The gunfight you describe for No Country would've been excellent to see. That as an alternative ending would be great.
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