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Post by Notumyoaliketroftdonhere on Jun 8, 2010 12:48:28 GMT 1
My trouble is i just won't except 'alien invasion concept movies' that parade under the banner of Well's book.Its nothing more than theft.If someones going to 'do it' so to speak then my advice to them is read the book.............it tells you everything you need to know and funny enough there is no mention of America,floating spaceships or next wave rubbish.The only people who have done the book justice is Jeff Wayne and Tim Hines.George Pal,Steven Spielberg have done nothing more than insult this great piece of work.
As far as Tim Hines is concerned,he did the best he could with a miniscule budget.Mr Spielberg on the other hand wastes 200 million quid on a complete bastardisation which bears no resemblence to the book i read.Wrong continent for starters.I just can't believe intelligent beings such as the Martians would take a wrong turn like that lol
These 'other' versions and i say that with the utmost distain carry the brand name of WOTW.They are nothing more than a five pound pair of counterfeit trainers.
There are no versions of WOTW.....................there is only one difinitive
Stay away from the fakes................they will only rot your mind lol
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Post by Notumyoaliketroftdonhere on Jun 8, 2010 13:11:10 GMT 1
Just been reading some of the comments on here about Mr Hines and Pendragons film and i am really suprised and shocked.This guy deserves a bit of credit for what he tried to do,yes he does!!
There is one split second scene in this film that could not be bettered and looks completely finished.Yeah i know its only a split second but it really is outstanding.I can only guess that due to the buget Mr Hines had to work with this couldn't be 'expanded' on due to cost.
On the trailer for the film,there is a shot where a Tripod advances across a field,one leg in front and 2 coming in from behind.Just the way Wells described their movements.Its closing in on two soldiers behind a cannon.Its a shame its so short.If you actually look at this split second clip it matches anything dreamworks could do if not better them for effects..
Everytime i see this clip i wonder if given 200 mil what Tim Hines could have accomplished as regards the special effects,probably alot. Spielberg ain't nothing special...............he's just got more money Funny enough,i would love to have seen his version made with the same money Hines had for his.................Bet we would have been laughing our nuts off at it due to the same reasons people mock Hines WOTW
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Post by richardburton on Jun 8, 2010 13:31:23 GMT 1
The problem has always been that Tim Hines told all the fans one thing and then created something completely different. He then set about a ruthless campaign of quashing any negative feedback and trying to big himself up at every opportunity. If he is not big enough to accept critisism then he's in the wrong game. Anyone who's ever created anything whether it be film, book, song or whatever always has to accept that it won't be everyone's cuppa tea and that some people will dislike it. To then try to quash that side of feedback through threats and other nefarious tactics is just a disgrace.
The fact of the matter is his film is very poor. It is the closest film adaption to the book, but that is it. It is poorly directed, horrifically edited, terribly acted with laughable effects. I have seen films on YouTube that have been made with a far smaller budget than Hines and they have looked far more professional.
Spielberg's effort could have been much better and was too bastardised to be called a Wotw's adaption, if that makes you feel any better.
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Post by Notumyoaliketroftdonhere on Jun 8, 2010 14:03:51 GMT 1
Cheers Mr Burton...................and yes it makes me feel better lol Its all about being true to the book for me,thats why i do stick up for him.I want my 200 million dollar accurate to the book film.It really perplexes me as to why there is no mega bucks definitive film.I need to see this 'put to bed'..............properly.
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Post by richardburton on Jun 8, 2010 16:16:03 GMT 1
I'd LOVE to see a good true adaption of it brought to film. There are hundreds of excellent directors and producers out there that could make it happen, but sadly at least for the near future I think we won't see anything for some time to come. I'll live in hope though.
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Jun 9, 2010 3:18:01 GMT 1
I said I would never watch this film on principle but some one gave me a copy (and I don't hold it against them) and it is probably the worst film I have ever sat through. Hines' outlandish claims of spending million on this film is - as you would say - total shite. One of our own forum members 'stevesudz' put together this short film for just a few quid on his £350 dell computer and it's a thousand times better than anything Hines did, the acting is better the Directing is better and the special effects are better. This is a film I could watch in awe, not like Hines effort which I watched with disgust and loathing. Spielberg's may not have been accurate but at least it was entertaining, Hines' was just embarrassing and dull.
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Post by Notumyoaliketroftdonhere on Jun 9, 2010 8:01:48 GMT 1
That is really really good.I could watch that 'til cows comes home'.I don't suppose anyone could convince Stevesudz to just make the complete film.Very atmostpheric (left needing more).I will sing praises to anyone who keeps it within the victorian era,just don't fit for me WOTW out of that period.All effort keeping a film like the book true gets a brownie point from me including Mr Hines.Hey you never know WOTW the true story may be far better.Lonesome............can we not bug the life out of this forum member coz this guys got talent and should do more of this
I know this isn't the thread here but any news on Mr Waynes CGI jobby Here's hoping
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Post by richardburton on Jun 9, 2010 10:17:23 GMT 1
I'd definitely pay to watch a full version of Stevesudz's version. Cracking job.
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Post by poyks on Jun 9, 2010 13:15:16 GMT 1
I would as well, it's absolutely brilliant!!
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Post by Commandingtripod on Jun 9, 2010 14:11:17 GMT 1
I would to.
The problem with film making boils down to one thing - money. The fact of the matter is, no American director, unless they can get a really solid backing is going to make a period piece version. American directors make films largely for American audiences. Honestly does anyone really think the overwhelming American population is going to swarm the cinemas in large numbers to see it? I really doubt it, even if we might love it to bits for its accuracy and such, the film has every potential to be a financial flop and no one seeks to make a film to lose money. Yes it happens, but they still didn't set out to make it lose money (well most sane people don't anyway).
If a British director managed to get the backing required, then there is a possibility that it could be done once again and well. I think however a lot of it would have to be managed by people simply donating their time and effort to make a film possible, because I doubt the funds required for it would be located any time soon. Never know, I could be wrong.
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Post by richardburton on Jun 9, 2010 18:39:16 GMT 1
Ridley Scott should do it - non-fans would go to see it just because it was a Ridley Scott film. But money is still the over-riding problem.
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Jun 9, 2010 22:46:10 GMT 1
This film will never be made officially in the UK, not while Mr Wayne holds the copyright, our only hope are people like Steve who might make the film as a none profit fan film and that is asking a lot of anyone. It has been done, last year a bunch of enthusiasts, armed with £3000, a couple of cameras and someone with computer graphic skills got together and made a 40 minute prequel to the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy, called THE HUNT FOR GOLLUM and a bloody good job they made of it too. Making a film like TWotW is going to be a huge undertaking and it's more than one person can manage on his own, what Steve has done is brilliant but I doubt we will get much more than this clip and I for one would not expect more. I am resined to the fact that TWotW will not be made by Jeff Wayne or by any other producer in Britain whilst Wayne holds the copyright and it's too big a project as a fan film.
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Post by richardburton on Jun 10, 2010 15:19:41 GMT 1
That's excellent for only £3000. If Jeff isn't going to do it himself, he should at least allow someone else to have a go.
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