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Post by Relyt on Aug 10, 2008 15:12:16 GMT 1
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Post by mrgrotey on Aug 10, 2008 15:38:39 GMT 1
Lol, ah well you can't expect everyone to like Wells. That's his view and he's entitled to it.
I myself don't know anythin about Well's the man so I can't really comment. I like the way he writes and that's as much as I get involved in it. If this guy thinks that then that's that, no point getting all flustered over it.
All I can can is that there are many people out there (mainly musical artists) whose work I love but whose personality I detest, that's the way it goes sometimes. The main one of these being Michael Jackson. So much crap to say about him and not enough time but he has made some of the greast songs ever and thats all that needs thinking about.
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Post by RustiSwordz on Aug 10, 2008 15:38:46 GMT 1
What a bunch of horse sh*t. (the wall street article)
I see the author is comparing a scene in one of wells books to that of 911.
Well in Richard Bachman (Steven King) Running Man the hero slams a 747 into a tower block. In The Medusa Touch, Richard Burton does the same.
Are they terrorists then? The whole article smacks of political point scoring.
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Post by Charles on Oct 15, 2008 4:51:09 GMT 1
Clearly Mr. Miller is unaware Wells is the originator of the rather familiar phrase we often use in conjunction with the First World War, "The War That Will End [All] War", or his 'Declaration of the Universal Rights of Man' that helped inspire the UN's similar declaration. And the list could go on. But can you blame Mr Miller? I mean, who has time to actually research their subject and context (beyond perhaps Michael Coren's eerily similar negative opinion) before slicing and dicing historical figures!?  |
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Post by stevesudz on May 28, 2009 19:36:46 GMT 1
If HG didnt quite see the agenda of the fascists pre 1930 and he thought that maybe it was a system that was working ( bearing in mind that Adolph H DID turn Germany around during those years (dastardly tho he was..) then surely he fits in well with the millions of others who thought the same including politicians from just about every country on earth. Hindsight is a tool used to great effect by journalists who want to bash someone for their errors..personally, I just like HGs' books and I dont care if he slept with a sheep in black stockings..
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Post by David Faltskog on May 28, 2009 23:18:52 GMT 1
"and I dont care if he slept with a sheep in black stockings..." Nowt wrong with that! me and Poyks do it all the time  d.bahhhhhhhh.f. |
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Post by poyks on May 29, 2009 15:01:35 GMT 1
"and I dont care if he slept with a sheep in black stockings..." Nowt wrong with that! me and Poyks do it all the time d.bahhhhhhhh.f. Hey, leave Flossy out if it! ;D |
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Post by Ashe Raven on Sept 2, 2009 11:45:24 GMT 1
I'm not going to defend the article but....
Yeah there is a lot in it I do not agree with, but Wells was wrong on a lot of things, and wheter we like it or not a lot of Utopian societies were as much built on his ideas, as well as religious and Darwinist ideas too. Bastardization was a fact of the times, and lets face it, whilst I agree with his ideas on Socialism, Russia did not benefit from Stalinist Communism, these afacts are inescapable
Isn't it about time we accepted our gods and the ideas they inspire can be flawed?
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Post by bayne on Sept 21, 2009 17:28:22 GMT 1
[glow=red,2,300]Its only fair to judge Wells flaws as well as his gifts.
And this article fails to acknowledge that much of modern human rights notions are because of him. So while damning him for failing to see the problems with fascism (along with much of the world at the time lets not forget) its wrong to not beatify him for giving us the modern most ethical definitions of right and wrong bewteen individuals and between them and the state. (take that Orwell!)
Its wrong to ignore the inherant criticisms of imperialism and colonialism in WotW, or the class struggles in Time Machine. And C.S. Lewis's criticisms of Wells usually require someone to be religious in order to concur.
I'm all for a warts-and-all understanding of any human, we are all flawed in some fashion. But the article is rubbish.[/glow]
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