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Post by Lonesome Crow on Apr 29, 2012 20:13:30 GMT 1
Ahh gee guys, your making me blush. ;D Joking aside. Luperis is correct. Everyone can draw, it just about wanting to draw. If you're passionate about it and you keep on practising you will improve. And don't give up because you work doesn't measure up to other artists work, Find a style that suites you and try to improve upon it. I couldn't do what Luperis does, I would always be adding more detail and that would spoil it. Luperis says carry a little sketch pad. That wouldn't work for me. Like a lot of writers I get intimidated my the blank page, I know it's silly but I do, I don't know where to start. So I always do a small roughs sketch on the backs of envelopes and then copy that onto a larger sheet of paper. That's what works for me, something else may work for you. It's just about finding what works.  |
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Apr 29, 2012 20:27:41 GMT 1
I envy you artists. I'm barely able to draw a warm bath. We envy you writers also 'obiwan' I have a story in me but I don't have the skills to put it on the paper. I have tried and I will keep on trying until it is all written down. Then I will rework it until I am happy with it... Whether anyone else will be happy with it is beside the point. ;D |
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Post by Luperis on Apr 29, 2012 22:24:06 GMT 1
Luperis says carry a little sketch pad. That wouldn't work for me. Like a lot of writers I get intimidated my the blank page, I know it's silly but I do, I don't know where to start. So I always do a small roughs sketch on the backs of envelopes and then copy that onto a larger sheet of paper. That's what works for me, something else may work for you. It's just about finding what works. It's not silly at all; we all have our little artistic quirks. When at home, I love doodling all over small scraps of paper that I can stick on the walls or in my sketch pad or wherever I feel like putting them at the time, and I like to move about a lot and dance when I paint. And I struggle with traditional drawing classes as the other people in the room intimidate me too much so have to learn things myself at my own pace. But I do love the fact that everyone works differently. Life would be boring if we all used the same methods. And boring is, well, boring. ;D And I couldn't draw like you either even if I tried. Years ago, I learnt that everything I draw often looks much more 'cute and rounded' to everyone else even when I try to do realistic or scary drawings and characters; I guess we just all see the world differently and our induvidual styles reflect that. As for writing, I can't really write characters as I don't understand the motivations and thought patterns of others. It's a real skill to be able to get ideas down in words - not something I've ever really been good at myself as I don't think in words and text, more in pictures and colours. So being an writer is pretty epic too. |
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Post by obiwanbeeohbee on Apr 30, 2012 5:47:39 GMT 1
I envy you artists. I'm barely able to draw a warm bath. We envy you writers also 'obiwan' I have a story in me but I don't have the skills to put it on the paper. I have tried and I will keep on trying until it is all written down. Then I will rework it until I am happy with it... Whether anyone else will be happy with it is beside the point. ;D Thanks for that, LC, but I'm halfway through the manuscripts of the second and third episodes (I hope to release them fairly close together) but I still don't know for certain if I could say for sure that I have the skills. I am learning, though. I know that when I'm 'in the zone' there is nothing I enjoy better than writing. I wrote over 230,000 words and followed some feral waterfowl around before I settled on the first draft of Chamberlain's Folly. It ended up being 167,000+ words long. I guess if I had anything usefull to share, it would be that I learned I should expect my characters to misbehave. For that matter, I learned to embrace their misbehavior. I found that my story ended up being much different than what I expected it would be. All my main characters threw me serious plot twists that I had to reconcile. It's strange, perhaps a bit psychotic,  but I found if I went into a scene with only a minimal idea of where I wanted it to go and let the characters write their own dialog, my subconscious would leave me 'Easter eggs' to find later. When I did that, I was amazed to find out a few things I thought might turn out to be dead ends actually ended up being important plot points I had resolved in chapters I wrote months before but had forgotten about. I also ended up rewriting it after I published it in the Kindle store. I republished the 'definitive' version in February after reworking the manuscript to to keep Zheng from visiting me in my dreams. Seems he felt his character needed more development. The result has been incredible. I was able to shorten the manuscript of the first book by about 30,000 words and add some action that wasn't there before. I also have outlines and even whole chapters for up to six books. As for drawing, I have been practicing and my stick figures now look like stick figures. ;D Baby steps. Right? |
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Post by Lonesome Crow on May 2, 2012 2:12:46 GMT 1
All my main characters threw me serious plot twists that I had to reconcile. It's strange, perhaps a bit psychotic, but I found if I went into a scene with only a minimal idea of where I wanted it to go and let the characters write their own dialog, my subconscious would leave me 'Easter eggs' to find later. When I did that, I was amazed to find out a few things I thought might turn out to be dead ends actually ended up being important plot points I had resolved in chapters I wrote months before but had forgotten about. Whilst I was doing my Graphic novel 'The Invasion of Earth?' I would rough out the plot for each picture and the character's dialogue. But when I actually came to do the illustrations sometimes the expression on a character's face would put a whole new meaning to the scene and send the plot in a totally different direction to the original plot-line. ;D |
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Post by richardburton on May 2, 2012 13:32:10 GMT 1
The beauty of a work in progress! My novels sometimes go off in completely different directions to the ones originally intended.
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but I found if I went into a scene with only a minimal idea of where I wanted it to go and let the characters write their own dialog, my subconscious would leave me 'Easter eggs' to find later. 
