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Post by poyks on Aug 22, 2007 0:46:14 GMT 1
As a keen aviation fan and enthusiast, the Ramstein airshow disaster has for a long time meant a lot to me, for the tragedy and sadness, mixed with the very important lessons learned that has kept this pastime (mostly) very safe ever since. I've just found this Youtube footage that gives personal accounts of the event, as well as the footage of the tragedy itself; and even if it feels a little contrived on the part of the documentary makers occasionally, it all the same lends some compassion to, and from some of the people that were there. Warning: the footage is edited with care, but could be disturbing given the nature of the tragedy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfV5NL3sKzIwww.youtube.com/watch?v=GwVYcCRr4Pc |
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Post by meleestormbringer on Aug 22, 2007 5:24:59 GMT 1
I remember that. That footage is really moving. Ironically it would seem that there has to be some good to come out all the footage taken that day.
I was never one for airshows, but I loved stunt driver shows. I can remember a disaster during the Chitwood Helldrivers Show at a carnival when I was like 5 or 6 years old. A stock car missed the landing ramp and crashed into the stands. My mom and I were fortunate to be seated in a different grandstand, but it's one of those things that stays with you for a very long time. Many spectators were killed or seriously injured.
I was a motorhead when I was younger. I was going to be the first woman to drive in NASCAR, and after I won the Winston Cup I would join the Helldrivers as the first female driver on their team. Needless to say, I changed my mind about that. In fact, I have never learned to drive because of my fear of cars that came from that day.
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Post by rustisstrikesagain on Aug 23, 2007 1:44:04 GMT 1
The Rammstein air disaster is the reason that the UK at least refuse to have aircraft travelling towards the spectators, they must always aim away from them.
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Post by meleestormbringer on Aug 23, 2007 4:50:13 GMT 1
Really? I didn't know that. Makes sense I suppose. Has the Flutag continued since the disaster?
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Post by Scifishocks on Aug 24, 2007 12:21:31 GMT 1
Have you seen the SU27 airshow crash in the Ukraine? Apparently the worst airshow disaster ever. Terrible.
I'll not post it, though, because the cam footage of the aftermath is way too graphic.
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Post by David Faltskog on Aug 24, 2007 12:50:31 GMT 1
I saw unedited footage of that on a website and it still haunts me too this day.
Tragic waste of life.
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Post by mrgrotey on Aug 24, 2007 14:09:57 GMT 1
Christ, i hadnt seen either of those crashes before, just seen them both on youtube, my god, i had no idea. so sad
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Post by rustisstrikesagain on Aug 27, 2007 23:16:08 GMT 1
I just looked at the Ukraine crash. Those poor people, at least it was quick.
Squashed like incets, not a nice term but very apt. Poor people.
the migs and sukhois seem to be prone to crashing at airshows.
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Post by Scifishocks on Aug 28, 2007 0:33:13 GMT 1
Yes, the Ukraine crash was awful. No doubt. And someone was there to give full reportage.
Hopefully (and I'm sure it has), it will give Airshow organisers around the world something to be wary of. Harrowing though it was, lessons need to be learned.
But yet, Airshows here (in the UK) have planes *decades* old that can still put on a thrilling display (I saw Lancasters, amongst other old planes, flying past only a year or two back) in total safety.
As Rusti says, the Russian planes are not without their faults. Who remembers the Russian 'concorde' that was abandoned eventually?
What exactly is going wrong? Is it pilot error or just a problem with design or something?
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