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Post by Relyt on Dec 31, 2007 16:17:40 GMT 1
Lets not go too far in making it look frightening. After all, some people, in the act of making it frightening, make a Fighting Machine which looks like a pile of (something incredibly nasty).
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Post by RustiSwordz on Dec 31, 2007 18:30:38 GMT 1
Thing is what do we come up with? Should it be organic or totally mechanical looking or a bit of both.
How frightening should we make it, my though is that the machine itself isnt that scary, the martians were a very practical race as opposed to flamboyant. To me the machine would look quite functional as opposed to artistic. After all it had to be put together from prefab components once they landed. So a degree of logic would have to go into the design.
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Post by Relyt on Dec 31, 2007 21:42:53 GMT 1
I think it should mostly be mechanical with a pinch of organic to give it a nice fluid motion (look at me, it sounds like I'm typing up a recipie...).
Does that make any sense to you?
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Post by poyks on Jan 18, 2008 20:37:26 GMT 1
I'll get the old sketch book out in the next couple of days to work out various possible representations of the component parts. These can be filtered down to most likely designs and worked on. Anyone else who has any visual ideas, put them on here, then they can be considered as well. Let's get building this beastie!  |
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Jan 16, 2009 3:18:38 GMT 1
I know it's almost a year since anyone posted anything on this thread, but did it happen? did you come up with the ultimate H.G Wells design? If you didn't I would like to re-open this thread, offer up some sketches that include all of Wells' descriptions and let you tweak them or even pull them to pieces. ;D
This sounded like a great project, it would be a shame to just let it die.
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Post by poyks on Jan 16, 2009 12:44:28 GMT 1
Yes, this one just fizzled out for some reason. It would be great to get inspired with a bit of creativity again. |
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Jan 17, 2009 0:15:13 GMT 1
Right then, I shall go and find a pencil and get cracking. ;D
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Jan 17, 2009 23:24:57 GMT 1
I am starting with main body section of the Fighting-Machine and the arrangement of its legs, I will get around to the Hood, leg Joints, Basket, Feet, Tentacles and Heat-Ray later. I have never liked the way H.G. describes the way the Tripod walked but as this is based on his description, I’ll just have to make the best of it. ;D Chapter 10: In the Storm.heeling over one way with two feet in the air, to vanish and reappear almost instantly as it seemed, with the next flash, a hundred yards nearer. Can you imagine a milking stool tilted and bowled violently along the ground? That was the impression those instant flashes gave.This description would suggest the lower section rotates either clockwise or anticlockwise whilst the machine would have to be tilted over. So if the lower section does rotate, it stands to reason all three legs must be identical.  Another thing that has always bothered me, how does the Martian get in and out of the machine? To allow the Martian access to the Hood section. Either the Hood descends to the ground (as in Roger & Martyn Dean’s design) or the whole machine would have to kneel down Reading through this thread I’ve noticed someone has already pointed out the passage in Chapter 3: Book 2: The Days of Imprisonment.A fighting-machine, with its legs contracted, crumpled, and abbreviated, stood across the corner of the pit.Therefore, I decided to use this description as the most likely method of access into the Hood, imagine it as a dead spider with its legs folded up. Where to anchor the legs?In many of the designs, such as Jeff Wayne’s record cover. the legs are spread wide. Sorry, impressive as these pictures are, it would not work, the support (the leg) is too far from the center of balance. As soon as the machine tried to take a step, instead of the leg going up the whole body of the machine would just tilt down, you can’t ignore gravity.  So the legs have to be anchored as close to the centre of balance as possible, this makes crumpling the legs up very difficult, the body and all the machinery it holds gets in the way unless you cut slots in the body to allow the legs to pass through, as I have done in my design and this little animation.  Sorry to ramble on for so long. Your opinions would be appreciated. |
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Post by Bagnew on Jan 18, 2009 0:33:16 GMT 1
Very nice, but when you add the top/head, wouldn't the top of the legs cut into the head as well? Unless you raise the Head up on a telescoping Pole, but that would defeat the purpose of the "kneel" because it would raise it up higher than the martian is able to Crawl/Jump/Shluggle.
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Jan 18, 2009 2:12:46 GMT 1
Very nice, but when you add the top/head, wouldn't the top of the legs cut into the head as well? Unless you raise the Head up on a telescoping Pole, but that would defeat the purpose of the "kneel" because it would raise it up higher than the martian is able to Crawl/Jump/Shluggle. Thank you, that is a good question. The Hood will be on a telescopic pole, but instead of going up it will come down and nest into the main body, it will also have indentations around it for the legs to slot into. The main body is a lot bigger than the Hood section. I forgot to mention before, those blisters around the main body are where the tentacles will emerge from. |
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Post by Relyt on Jan 18, 2009 4:57:52 GMT 1
Brilliant.  |
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Post by mrgrotey on Jan 18, 2009 10:09:05 GMT 1
Chapter 10: In the Storm.heeling over one way with two feet in the air, to vanish and reappear almost instantly as it seemed, with the next flash, a hundred yards nearer. Can you imagine a milking stool tilted and bowled violently along the ground? That was the impression those instant flashes gave.This description would suggest the lower section rotates either clockwise or anticlockwise whilst the machine would have to be tilted over. Im still trying to work out how you managed to (almost without doubt) decide it rotates at all! where does it say that? Also what program did you do that animation in? |
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Post by Lonesome Crow on Jan 18, 2009 14:16:18 GMT 1
I'm still trying to work out how you managed to (almost without doubt) decide it rotates at all! where does it say that? Also what program did you do that animation in? From this sentence: Can you imagine a milking stool tilted and bowled violently along the ground?The word bowled would suggest a rotary action, I don't know how else to interpret it. If you have a different interpretation I would be only too pleased to hear it, as I have said I never liked this description and I hope I am wrong. The program I used for the animation is a very basic and time consuming add-on that comes with Paint Shop Pro, called 'Animation Shop 3' Thanks 'relyt' but do you have any suggestions, I want this to be a group thing as 'Poyks' originally intended. |
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Post by poyks on Jan 18, 2009 18:46:15 GMT 1
Fantastic stuff!! As for the bowled milking stool analogy, remember it says "That was the impression those instant flashes gave" after it, so I'm wondering if it was intended as a way of describing the strobing effects of the lightning as opposed to a direct description of the machine itself. |
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Post by mrgrotey on Jan 18, 2009 21:09:26 GMT 1
I took it to mean the way it kind of staggered down the hill, because, in london at least, we describe the way some people walk (like the stereo typical Mancunian Liam Gallagher walk as bowling
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